Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered outside the gate.  Therefore, let us go forth to him outside the camp, bearing his reproach.  For we have no continuing city here, but we seek one to come.


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A Letter From A Self-Appointed Apostle: Response 4

Hey Pastor John,

Whenever I read correspondence about the “get saved” doctrine or any of its derivatives, questions always come to mind. I think to myself, “If what he is saying is true, then how can you explain this scripture or that scripture?” You touched on it some with the “falling from grace” quote etc. When I was reading Amy’s first response, the question that came to my mind was, “If Apostle Paul wasn’t still having to deal with the flesh after he received the holy Ghost, then why did he continue to war with it?”

Billy H.



Excellent thought, Billy. Where is the warfare if one can no longer possibly do wrong?

In Romans 11, Paul’s warning to the saints (who unquestionably DID have the real holy Ghost) was that unless they continued in God’s goodness, they would be “cut off” and that they should fear such a thing. Sounds as if people can fall from God’s favor once they receive it, don’t you think?

My father used to say that people who teach that one cannot “fall from grace” (Paul’s phrase) teach that because they really fall from grace, inasmuch as they have never received it. “If you are up on the roof, you know you can fall”, he said. “People who are still on the ground don’t know they can fall because they have never risen high enough above the dirt to know the fear of God.”

Pastor John

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